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Followed up and why couldn't victims have been protected sooner? >> you're absolutely right, andrea. everybody is focusing on 2002 because that was the first thing that involved coach joe paterno. but in 1998, the allegation by the mother was brought to the center county district attorney, a man by the name of edward drecar. he declined to prosecute the case, he didn't think there was enough evidence. again, it's always easy to second-guess, and if i'm district attorney, and as you know, i was for eight years in philadelph philadelphia, i would bring that case for no other reason that it bring...

Did the minimum they're required to do. >> and he was in the locker room a week before he was arrested. if they wanted to have a grand jury impanelled, they could say, look, we don't have charges yet, but you better do something about protecting young children. >> they didn't need the grand jury or the panel to tell them that, they were all aware there was something bad that happened in the shower, number one. how he could still be around kids, nobody two, but more importantly, how someone in that whole hierarchy didn't think this was worth bringing to the police attention is beyond me. they w...

Grand ju assistant coach sees and he does nothing about it. try to stop it, pull the guy off, hit him over the head with a -- towel rack. >> what i can't understand, governor, how is it possible after that, after 2002 and going forward, after sandusky was retired or whatever it was that happened to him and he's still getting his pension, all of this is pretty inexplicable. how could someone, even if there weren't a legal case, how could somebody not say, take the keys away and protect the children? why did it take so long for the former attorney general corbett to take some action against thos...

Sandusky is going to be in jail for the rest of his life, probably. it makes no sense and it is a black mark on president spanier, coach paterno, all these people who many have done great things for the university and great things for the state of pennsylvania. it's a tragedy at so many levels. but first and foremost, it's a tragedy because a lot of kids were subjected to this type of abuse and it could have been prevented. and that makes it almost unconscionable. >> ed rendell, thank you very much. tonight on "rock center with brian williams," bob costas tackling the penn state scandal. tha...