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Rigging the system. this is not about, which is what you see every day in the papers, somebody saying oh, it was affirmative action for those minority kids. this reveals the real disadvantage, the real discrimination in the system. >> dana: one thing that's amazing, you look at the coaches implicated. stanford, yale, the women's soccer coach, $500,000. georgetown, ucla. soccer, water polo. usc water polo coach. >> jesse: they bribed the coaches. i guess because they were paid less, they were more susceptible to bribes. now i know i didn't get into yale. i've been wondering for so long who took...

Override all consequences. that's what scares me. >> dana: just don't answer the phone. >> jesse: i don't answer the phone because media relations scared me into not answering the phone. don't answer the phone if it's an unidentified number because it could be a reporter. if i answer the phone and its reporter and they asked me, what you think, then i hang up and they write the story. when reached by phone, watters hung up on me. now i screen everything. i screen my mother. just text me. >> dagen: you don't screen calls. >> juan: i don't. i have a d.c. area code so i get a ton of these. appare...