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By economic sanctions, certainly by diplomatic efforts. there is -- there are a number of ways that the internation community can apply pressure on the current leader in libya. but we -- but specifically, to me, it is not a mission to cause regime change in nlibya. >> so no regime chge as far as your mission is concerned, even though the president has go.atedly said gadhafi must so it's still a little vague in my mind. how will you know success in libya when it occurs? >> well, i think we have achieved already a large degree of success. we do have an arms embargo, we do have a no-fly zone, and...