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Vice president, also gop presidential candidate, he's reacting at the iowa state fair to the news. an to be honest with you i can't relate to what his son was doing when he was vice president. when i was vice president and my son was flying an f-35 for the marine corps defending this country. but i think it's about time that we saw the appoint of a special counsel to get to the bottom of not only what hunter biden was doing, but the biden family was doing. the american people deserve answers. >> sandra: new reaction from the iowa state fair. kevin mccarthy saying the action by biden's doj cann...

Away at the timeline and push out that case past the point where doj cannot really pursue it because we are in the heat of the election season. and i think that might still happen even if judge cannon says no. i will not delay this inevitably. >> joyce i think ali brings up the mar-a-lago request and the delay indefinitely on the part of trump's defense team. one of the things that i found particularly interesting and they're sort of argument was the idea of rebutting the contention of the special counsel that this is not a novel case. jack smith said this thing could handle and can be handled...

Several charges in order of importance. but, remember georgia is a two-step process and so the investigative grand jury that gather the information that she needs in order to present indictments to the grand jury that is convened today has already done its work. so joyce, it's absolutely right that she has a head start there. jack smith also is joining this other case at mar-a-lago that has some timing challenges of its own. so that is also were a lot of his focus must be. and in that one, you know we have this motion last night that trump made aboutde laying indefinitely and it is not reasona...

And the search comes a whole year later in august 2022 in mar-a-lago. it's still a very open question, what if anything was retrieved from or examined from bedminster. but do you think jack smith knows where the document is? >> i've got to think so, only because it's such a serious document, nicolle, the national security folks want that out of trump's mitts. if they don't have it they would have tried to search bedminster or force it out. it's a separate problem if it remains out there for trump to try to use or exploit however he's doing it. for that i surmise that he does. remember, we are ...

That he knew these didn't have the authority to do what h wanted if, the report for example, if the reports are accurate if yo are two on us to do what i wan you to do. that's an admission that h knows what it would require, deception in line. i think that it's intent tha they will go ahead for sure. >> firsthand account of th presidents intent seems to b very valuable in this. i do wonder, because mike penc tried to fight off the subpoen by invoking the speech and debate clause, and som questions are going to be of the table for prosecutor because the judge has grante limited privilege, if yo...