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Investigation, the factual predicate that led to it. we have a lot to learn, that's true. but you mentioned the idea of nixon being rebuffed at different turns and tim talking about the irs preventing certain behavior. would you be surprised if anyone in the doj power structure stood up and said this is wrong? these are sitting members of the intelligence committee, a coequal branch of government. what do you think, john? >> it looks like they rolled over and did what he wanted. he might not have even given them a direct order. it might have been a tweet that set them off. so i'm not surprised...

About the idea of while you had not one but two impeachments, at the idea this was an available tactic. i mean, john, are you surprised? and we don't know -- again, we onto k don't know all the ins and outs of this investigation. the factual predication that led to it. we have a lot to learn, still, that's true. but you mentioned the idea of nixon being rebuffed at different turns. and tim talking about the idea of the irs preventing certain behavior. would you be surprised if no one in the doj-power structure stood up and said this is wrong? i mean, these are sitting members of the intelligen...

Special counsel to oversea whatev -- over see whatever investigations may be happening? >> i think that should be extremely helpful. what we know is we can't trust the a.g. we can't trust the fbi. we can't trust comey, we can't trust sessions and so we've got to get an independent overseer to get going with these investigations. >> so you would like to see -- it's not just a special counsel -- a special counsel would be within the doj power structure but you, like your colleagues, want a 9/11 style commission with subpoena power to be impaneled through some sort of legislation to investigate t...

-- a special counsel would be within the doj power structure but you, like your colleagues, want a 9/11 style commission with subpoena power to be impaneled through some sort of legislation to investigate this. >> absolutely. i think we're going to do everything we can to take the investigations out of the house and even out of the senate even though i have more feelings about it being in the house and not thinking it can really be credible than i do in the senate. i do think we have some student -- >> i want to make sure i'm understanding that. you trust the senate more than you trust the hou...