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Said, look what happened to the oath keepers. they were guilty. take a look at that, d.o.j. >> yes, can i echo frank real quick? i think you make an important point. i want to remind viewers, we just got this huge criminal referral news and we also got over 100 pages of the supplemental material and a road map and the supporting material is part of that. and to echo frank, the fancy lawyer lingo, arguing the alternative, i would say they are saying donald trump is a criminal, is a thug, in more than one way. that's just straight talk, right? so on the obstruction of the official proceeding, th...

>> if nothing else, the president has given us a giant civics lesson over the past year and a half when it comes to this stuff i think it brings up a really important point, rosenstein and jeff sessions know they are under the microscope here. jeff sessions you have seen him being defiant in his position at d.o.j. yes, there is the concern of course that what he is doing is in response to the criticisms of the president. but he is staying put. he is there. rosenstein knows the speech is going to be parsed through yet he continues to have this kind of public voice in all of this. i think it sho...