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Wonder -- that? >> every white person who is living, born in the 20th or the 21st century presumptively is a racist based on the institution of slavery and the dokts rin of white supremacist. i say presumptively. i have white people in my family, okay. i'm simply saying that to focus on whether or not president trump is a racist, i'm here in a representative capacity speaking from the legacy of martin luther king jr. so i think he would say that dr. king is a work in progress. okay. >> so how do you -- how do you teach people? how do you teach a 71-year-old man? how do you get people to empath...

"toxic talk: how the radical right has poisoned america's airwaves." this is due out may 25th. would the fairness dokts rin clean this up or change the landscape, or is it really not an avenue to pursue? >> first i have to say, ed, you're ahead of the curve. you summed up the entire book in your first five minutes. the fairness doctrine -- first, what did the fairness doctrine require? here's an essential principle, as holland and you both know. these are public airwaves we're talking about. we the american people owned public airwaves. they're the licenses given so they can operate these -- s...