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What do you see here, charlie? >> i would assess that language, in fact a lot of this filing in the say way you just did. this is a pattern of trump's legal teams. i say that plural because he's had so many different ones in all these different types of litigation around the country he's involved in. some criminal, some civil. and it is very common for those filings to be written in a way that seems unuse bible for a courtroom. they're making arguments that are quotable, that jump out. they're good for newspaper writers like me because they're not turgid, they're punchy. but they don't really ...

And that's what was so surprising. there's no case yet. there could be but there's no case yet. the district attorney here in fulton county, fani willis, has said that charges -- or a decision could be imminent, but imminent in prosecutorial standard time is very different than imminent in our standard time. but look, my first reaction to this is they must be very worried. they're going on the attack right now. it's a sign that trump's legal team isn't going to wait around and see whether the former president is getting indicted. they're going to go on the offensive right now and they're going...

But including in georgia. and at the federal level. so it would be kind of astounding to all of a sudden a half century later decide they're unconstitutional because they're inconvenience. >> hmm. yeah. all fair points. greg, on the ground there i will say that it was certainly sun usual to have this many grand jurors speaking out. and this filing, again, to the points i think all three of you have referred to, maybe for other public reasons, raises this point. in truth, if you want to get into it, and we've got time, let's get into it, there are more permissive rules on what grand jurors can ...

That's what he says. then you have his lawyers down in georgia attacking a case where, and this is important, he hasn't been charged at all. so that itself is a little unusual. they filed a motion attacking the atlanta d.a.'s basically probe and report up to this point. so that's the first official filing in a way by trump's team in the probe. we've heard from his lawyers. we know they're out there. but this is drawing questions about why they're doing it right now. the new filing is donald trump basically trying to have his lawyers move in that probe. for what exact reasons only they know. bu...

As for the d.a.'s side, no comment yet in public from them. just this afternoon there was an update, though, in the probe. abc news reporting that prosecutors in the d.a.'s office requested an interview with trump attorney christina bobb. it's not clear what information they hope to gain, whose role in trump's handling of classified documents is under review in a different federal doj probe. reports are that bobb plans to deny that request, according to her lawyer john lauro. one echo is trump's lawyers getting lawyers. i want to bring in "atlanta journal-constitution" reporter greg bluestein....