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Relatively small detail for port authority official is on his mind for a few years. >> well, yeah. you have this billion dollar development, right, that is talked about down there. and i must say i, when i first heard that, go with the easy conspiracy, right? it made sense. but on the other hand you do start to wonder. real estate is, particularly in new jersey, kind of the root of all -- >> evil. evil is the word. evil. >> that is the word i was looking for. so it is the root of all evil. you have a ton of money sitting down there and you wonder why is this political operative thinking about ...

Unfortunate stereotype. it's like "american hustle." the governor's lieutenants are mucking up traffic in a billion dollar development. it just doesn't pass the smell test. >> no question about it. christie's aide, bridget kelly, hired a new high-powered attorney. what do you make of that? what did the first guy do wrong? she claims she is telling the truth but all of a sudden she's changing teams. >> you're going to see a lot of that. some attorneys will say they have conflicts with other people. they're going to get political pressure to step aside. the most telling thing about this whole ch...

Accomplished on a county level, a state level. i'm proud of our delegation and our district. i tell you, we have done phenomenal things in ft. lee. >> that is the tragedy here. we're in the middle of a renaissance, a billion dollar redevelopment. we are arguably if most aggressive community in the state of new jersey run by this idiot. >> that was ft. lee mayor sokolich defending his record against the slurs and ethnically slander of chris christie operatives that refer to him as se serbian during this interview, he said that, i sat up in my chair $1 billion in development. i figured the mayor...

That story. but it's also, the idea, though, it would be something much larger than that, then those, it warrants further investigation. >> i think the other thing, i find interesting is one of the things, if you read between the lines in a bunp of the e-mails. . it's clear they didn't want this to be a four-day thing. it actually looks like it was a four-day thing, randy foye found out about it and flipped out and shut it down. it looks like possibly they were going to sit back and go how is it going ft. lee? >> they call themselves outraged, they were pushing back the closure of the lanes. i...

>> well, for sure. and i think steve kornacki is on to something here. this was a billion dollar development. there are a lot of players involved that are close to christie that are enemies of christie. this is something that we're really going to have to look very, very closely at. >> wow. we'll be watching it. let me put that it way. new jersey state senator ray lesniak, and joan walsh. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> thank you. coming up, did governor christie know more? can he survive this politically? former governor ed rendell joins us. plus, we're learning mor...