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Interview last night with the chief of staff. we did this morning "the wall is the wall. it's never changed or evolved from the first day i conceived of it. parts will be of necessary see through. never intended to be intended. directly or indirectly, or through longer term reimbursement, by mexico, which has a ridiculous $71 billion dollar trade surplus with the u.s. the $20 billion dollar wall is "peanuts" compared to what mexico makes from the u.s. nafta is a bad joke!" what about that? >> quite an interview. very significant one. i think we can all have respect for general kelly's service ...

>> dana: you know i gave him an a for marketing for a buy american, higher american. >> i knew you would. >> dana: the democrats hated it that. it was called the clear skies act. secretary kelly's comments, i did think listening to a secretary in the cabinet, what keeps them awake at night and he says it's the southern border and that if there is a terrorist attack, it would come from mitigating across that southern border. what you think? >> that does not keep me up at night. we have 700 miles of fencing and walls already. we need to implement technology, not build a 20 plus billion dollar wa...

So what is it going to be when he runs for re-election and unemployment is at 6% and it's the worst crime in 48 years. no, it's really the lowest crime rate in about 48 years. had a little uptick last year. but historically low. we can expect the crime rate will probably stay the same or go up. so then what does he say if it's the worst in 47 years now what does he say two years from now? same thing with illegal immigration. it's been going down for years now what is he going to say? he has created these ises where these crises don't exist. what happe when we have a slight return tonormalcy? s...

The numbers of people streaming across the border have already been going down so you set yourself up with a strawman of something that is actually not happening and paint yourself in noo a corner now and you have to push for 22 billion dollar wall that will include using eminent domain and all of these things nobody wants to have to use. what do you need the wall if everything is happening without wall? >> the two academic numbers i think they are most focused on where they think they can see improvement, one is the gdp number getting it closer to 3 than at 2. the other is job creation althou...

Mexico would paid for. but, yesterday, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said this about the wall. >> well, i'm in favor of border security. [ laughter ] there are some places along the border where that is probably not the best way to secure the border. but i think general kelly knows what he is doing. i think the president picked an outstanding person to be in charge of homeland security and my suspicion is we will take his advice. >> reporter: do you believe that mexico will pay for it? >> no. [ laughter ] >> in a word. no. >> mika, mitch mcconnell, we talked about it a couple of weeks...