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The defense budget over the last two years is up 12%. the point i would make to you, congressman, a lot of the beef in the budget, big ib creases in spend having been in domestic areas. that's one of the reason the republicans are spending their budget blade at those programs. you never asked my question. if you can get a deal with republicans to cut these defense programs, what about democrats, will they come to the table and cut waste in the domestic budget? >> i voted for a balanced budget under clinton and we cut a lot of domestic programs. it was a hard, tough vote but we balanced the bud...

If you can get a deal with republicans to cut these defense programs, what about democrats, will they come to the table and cut waste in the domestic budget? >> i voted for a balanced budget under clinton and we cut a lot of domestic programs. it was a hard, tough vote but we balanced the budget. what i'm saying to you, steve, the republicans are not giving you the whole scoop here. they have the budget from last year, which we never finished. remember the ominous was pushed aside? they could be able to cut money out of the budget that should have already left the station that -- so they shoul...

To the domestic budgets, that's up 60%, 70%, 80% in the last few years. defense budget is up about 12%. the foint i would make is a lot of the beef in the budget, the big increases in spending have been in the domestic area. that's why i think one of the reasons republicans are aiming their budget blade at these programs. you never answered many i question. if you can get a deal with republicans to cut some of the defense programs, what about democrats? will they come to the table and cut some of the waste in the domestic budget? >> i voted for a balanced budget under clinton and we cut a lot ...

Domestic policy adviser. she's also on thegrio.com's list of top 100 history makers in the making. that's a pretty big billing you'll have to live up to in this interview in five minutes. >> my mother's pretty happy with it. >> there you go. i hear that. i want to start with the budget. we know that the president announced a nonsecurity spending freeze on some discretionary spending. well, that hits a lot of domestic programs. th you're the domestic policy adviser. this had to make you sort of grit your teeth. there are going to be some programs that you want to do that we can't afford to do a...

Strategist about this over the weekend who said she had been working for ten years to elect a president that she could, you know, be happy about, whose domestic programs would be something she believed in. and now she's stuck defending paygo. >> that's horrible. >> that's tough. let me just say one thing. i think at the end of the sanger piece there's an important point to make. when bill clinton took office, there were projections of ten-year deficits that were unsustainable as well. and a lot of that turned out to be false because ten-year projections are very inaccurate. and what you ended ...