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Saying are 136 irani-made drone missiles, focused largely on odessa, the ukrainians are saying that 15 were fired, 10 were shot down, 5 got through, plunging that city of 1.5 million at least temporarily into blackout. now, this has been a pattern that we've seen elsewhere in the country, with the deliberate targeting of -- by russian missiles, particularly cruise missiles, of the energy infrastructure here. now, there is also a pressure growing on international criminologists that this is a shine that the russians are in breach of international humanitarian law by targeting civilian structure...

Move into luhansk and donetsk? have you seen them move into that donbas region and have you seen them move further beyond ukraine? >> okay. a lot there. on donetsk and luhansk as you've heard administration officials say before, we do believe that that marks the beginning of an invasion. we certainly believe that additional russian military forces are moving into that region, not beyond that region that we've seen. but we can't confirm with great specificity or the numbers. as to your question, about the timing, only president putin knows the timing here. i will tell you we continue to see him...

President vlodymyr zelensky is saying don't wait to impose sanctions. are you very clear that the sanctions we are hearing about so far which focus on donetsk and luhansk agreed by the white house, agreed by the uk government and the european union still considering its package, not announced yet, you seem clear that is not enough. it is package, not announced yet, you seem clear that is not enough.— clear that is not enough. it is not enou:h clear that is not enough. it is not enough because _ clear that is not enough. it is not enough because the _ clear that is not enough. it is not enoug...

He's hearing that but quite understanding that the russians are using it for their own propaganda inside russia. that trump was understanding us and biden doesn't. that helps with the hawks in the administration. for putin it's not such a big deal. >> i spoke to a pro-democracy activist within russia. >> of course. >> he said putin has lost a grip of reality. i wonder what you think of that? . >> well, to a degree i think he has lost a grip on reality because he's been in power 20 years. absolute power corrupts absolutely. so he really sees the world the way he sees the world. his speech on uk...

Front that, yes, we're talking. yes, we understand. yes, we're going to negotiate over this and that. but i know from my own time here with the osc -- i was here in 2014, 2015. we had multiple talks with the russian-backed thugs in donetsk and representatives from moscow. each time a cease-fire was negotiated, it was broken shortly afterwards. there's a pattern of lying and deceit on the russian side, and i don't think we should expect anything less right now. >> it's a bit of a different situation only in the sense that here the russians are certainly not performing the way they had hoped. >>...