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If it happens to be -- >> from the russian government? >> she didn't represent the russian government. she's a private citizen. i don't even know if they knew she was russian at the time. all they had was her name. >> oh, my. >> reporter: now, remember, the president and his allies initially said that meeting was all about russian adoptions. rudy giuliani just there said the meeting was really about getting bitter on hillary clinton. the russians didn't provide it so we weren't interested. that's a huge moving of the goal posts here. the other thing, to say that the trump campaign didn't know ...