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Hunting, which you talked about on a case by case basis. drastically reduced parkland surrounding to national monum t monuments in utah. what do you think the motivation is for rolling back these regulations, jeff? >> i believe is's a willful and purposeful negligence when it comes to managing our resources. i think this is what happens when you allow big business to secure the director of the epa, scott pruitt. and when you allow the president's son, who is a big game hunter in africa to select the director of the department of the interior, secretary zinke, this is what you get. and election...

Comes to symbols of who we are as a country. so the idea that you would allow techniques of this sort to hunt in landscape and wildlife that belongs to all of us is absolutely absurd and demoralizing and incredibly depressing. >> so what about the fact that these are, you know, lands that belong to all of us. these are public lands. granted at times very remote. but where other people come to enjoy recreation and wildlife. should that be a factor here? >> absolutely. these are the symbols of who we are as a nation. for example, many states allow for hunting and fishing. i'm a hunter and fisher...

Wildlife biologist. and each state, don, has its own regulations in how it manages wildlife. but federally and nationally, we go through the department of the interior and the national park service. and the u.s. fish and wildlife service. that primarily use data and science as the backdrop to putting forth regulations when it comes to connecting resources. for example, if you're in yellowstone national park, you need to fish with a barbless hook. and we're talking about killing pups and baear cubs and wolf babies and taking undulates down from boats and rivers. it's incredibly unheard of. but ...

Science as the backdrop to putting forth regulations when it comes to connecting resources. for example, if you're in yellowstone national park, you need to fish with a barbless hook. and we're talking about killing pups and bear cubs and wolf babies and taking undulates down from boats and rivers. it's incredibly unheard of. but unfortunately, don, it's really not surprising. there has never been a presidential administration more willfully intent on being negligent when it comes to managing our resources than this administration. look at their stance on climate change denial. the shrinking o...

When science doesn't matter, don, when we deny climate change with regard to a changing planet, i mean, this is just the frosting on the cake. >> yeah. we're out of time. thank you so much. i appreciate the time we had together. that's it for us tonight. see you right back here tomorrow. maker you've ever met. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials from around the world. nobody else even comes close. it's about delivering a more comfortable shave every time. invented in boston, made and...