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It if -- >> it wouldn't look like a parade we see in pyongyang, certainly. it wouldn't look like a parade we used to see when the soviet union would roll their massive military across red square. it would look like a bunch of great americans who were probably feeling a bit embarrassed that they were required to do this, marching down pennsylvania avenue. it's simply unnecessary. it's really about -- the military is about the served, not those who serve. it's about those for who we serve. it's completely upside down. >> it would be really interesting to see how the military handles this tasking...

And number two, the united states military does not need to show off its hardware to show its strength. this is not the way a superpower behaves. i think it's frankly a little bit beneath us. and if you want to show support for the troops or showcase our important our military is, then get them a budget. do what secretary mattis did today when he was on capitol hill, arguing strenuously to get a budget. that's what they need. they don't need to march down pennsylvania avenue. we don't need to bust in and truck in tanks and rocket launchers to try to show how big and important we are. i think t...

He has asked the department of defense to explore a celebration at which all americans can show their appreciation." and don, as you pointed out, a lot of this stems back to his trip to paris last year where he joined emmanuel macron to see the bastille day parade and was very impressed. i can tell you, i was at that parade and i was watching the president's reactions, he was riveted for hours at this military parade. now it's pretty clear he wants one of his own. >> sara, thank you so much. appreciate it. let's talk about all of this. i want to bring in john kirby, military analyst, general j...

Then the president will make a decision to release it or not. but kelly's already throwing cold water on it, saying the democratic memo is not as clean as the gop version. relative to sources and methods. so we have a lot of news to cover, a lot of ground to cover here from this white house, as always. so we begin tonight with cnn political correspondent, sara murray. sara, good evening to you. thank you so much for joining us. you have brand-new reporting on president trump, reportedly now eager to sit down with the special counsel, robert mueller despite his lawyers advising him not to. so f...

Time. watch this. >> to a large extent, because of what i witnessed, we may do something like that on july 4th in washington down pennsylvania avenue. >> so douglas, presidents don't normally do this, which i guess shouldn't surprise us. what's your perspective? >> that donald trump is a showman. you know, he likes the kind of bling and blang, casino kind of bells ringing, thinks this parade will be a great idea. you know, the part that bothers me, don, is donald trump is yet to visit our 15,000 troops in afghanistan. we have 6,000 troops in syria and iraq. he's never gone to even see them. yo...