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Terrorist operations against us, against western europe, then i think that is the inevitable result. i think where our mistake in afghanistan has been is to try and donation building. i would scrub that activity entirely. i don't think it works. but i don't think we can allow our security to depend on the performance of afghan government troops. we're there not to help them, we're there to defend ourselves. >> but given the topography -- how many years, ambassador, have we been there? >> well, we've been there since 2001, after the september 11th attacks. >> 14 years. we haven't stopped them y...

Terrorist operations against us against western europe then i think that is the inevitable result. i think where our mistake in afghanistan has been is to try and donation building. i would scrub that activity entirely. i don't think it works. but i don't think we can allow our security to depend on the performance of afghan government troops. we're there not to help them we're there to defend ourselves. >> but given the topography -- how many years, ambassador have we been there? >> well we've been there since 2001 after the september 11th attacks. >> 14 years. we haven't stopped them yet? >>...

Power. we would have been out of afghanistan a lot sooner had we not spent seven years ignoring it after we had success destroying the taliban, chasing them out of the country and instead went it iraq. that was a big mistake. . spent a lot of money, a lot of lives and more time we could have product efly spent chasing the taliban pip think had we stayed in afghanistan, we would be coming home now with a great deal more success under our belt. the legacy here, is that i think we will hear and this is the bad news, i think we will hear the same thing from the military establishment and pr politi...

In the hour. couple members of congress, one republican, one democrat, written the president said it is time to pull our forces out. the mission is essentially overin afghanistan and nation-building is not something we should be attempting. your thoughts? >> i agree with the nation-building. i don't agree they ought to donation building. i believe they should stablize and secure the country to afghan security forces can take over from us and leave. we haven't accomplished that. we started doing that with the proper resources last summer as a result of the president's decision. this will take u...

Terrorist operations against us, against western europe, then i think that is the inevitable result. i think where our mistake in afghanistan has been is to try and donation building. i would scrub that activity entirely. i don't think it works. but i don't think we can allow our security to depend on the performance of afghan government troops. we're there not to help them, we're there to defend ourselves. >> but given the topography -- how many years, ambassador, have we been there? >> well, we've been there since 2001, after the september 11th attacks. >> 14 years. we haven't stopped them y...