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Really hard bill. when took up health care there were hearings and debate and donald trump didn't do that. but i want to be clear that what i'm saying is crazy is the fact donald trump said artificial timelines goal posts for the republicans. >> only did that one time and it back fired. >> no donald trump said we're going to get health care done x. >> because bill agreed on it. >> there was no bill. you clearly don't understand how congress works. >> where is the humility with this president and as any other president will tell you, as ronald reagan, george w. bush, george w. h. bush and presi...

Relinquish power and tell me what to do, how do i make myself better and this administration better? >> in most cases presidents learn from people, they listen to people. ron reagan, he realized it was a disaster. he set up a system that was going to collapse. californians came in and didn't know how the run the white house. he listens to james bake, he baker, who was in ifr if a of george herbert walker bush. reagan understand it. carter understood. it clinton took lessons. clinton's white house was also collapsing a year in. does donald trump have the ability to take advice from people? he's...

Missed up getting involved. libya was a mistake. if you look at lives saved, was libya a mistake? they were worried about a slaughter. the western world was worried about a slaughter. that was the rational. president obama was reluctant to go in. it's fragile and libya is a mess. it's not syria. i know libya is not as complicated as syria. >> it is not densely complicated. say what you want about libya, if syria looked like libya, that would be a success. >> this is a great sport in washington. if i had done x, then y. we will never know for sure. being moved across north africa. it is not by ...

Veteran population and their increasing needs. we knew all this was coming, and this is something that president obama -- >> let's give credit here a little bit here, mrs. obama and dr. jill biden have been out there, that's their big cause, they were always talking about the veterans' families and how they are looking out for them. i'm amazed this didn't seep out somehow, these stories. >> put one of them in charge of the va. there's been complaints coming out of the health care side for the last five years. again, this didn't start with arizona. there have been people bailing out of va healt...

This knowledge? >> i don't have the answer to that question. all i know is, in my view, he's failed to manage the agency to do what the president said he wanted to do when he campaigned in 2008. >> i think general shinseki and his supporters would argue he's done a lot, he's done x, y, z, waiting times were down, although it turns out maybe that was falsified. maybe they weren't down, we now need to see, but let's give him credit for whatever he has accomplished, but let's recognize he doesn't seem to be able to go that last mile and to really get to the root of the problems in the va. >> you ...