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Is wrong and i think you agree and donna also agrees. >> what should be the punishment for the woman doing that? >> it should be against the law. >> what should be the punishment? >> i think the punishment should certainly be very serious. >> what should it be for the woman? what should it be for the woman? >> it should be more than a civil case. it should be something very serious. >> a criminal matter for the woman as well as the doctor. >> i think so. you are killing an embryo and sometimes four or five months into gestation. >> i agree with the value. i just think we get involved in person...

This is the ultimate war on women, mr. speaker. if we don't allow women to be born, we cannot talk about any other rights. >> you talk about a war on women, this is a war on ethics. woe to you if you vote against this bill. >> welcome back to "hardball," the bill if question we're talking about with the members were on the floor, a bill that would criminalize gender selections a a reason for borgs, although 246 members voted for it and 169 against it it didn't get the requisite two-thirds of the rule in which it was brought up. let's talk to two congressmen on both sides of the bill. cliff ste...

I wish i was lincoln. >> the study he cites they interviewed 65 women out of millions across this country. 65 women. and that's the basis for national policy here. this is really ridiculous. this continues, the republicans on one hand don't want us to say there's a war on women, yet every single week there's some new measure to ban abortion, to end family planning. they don't want to provide for family planning, but then they want to prevent so-called sex-based abortions. finding a problem that really doesn't exist in this country to merit the level of national policy. this is really ridiculou...