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Policy questions with him. >> here's why i think -- i would agree with that. let me say. here's what i would say is my position if i'm say a big sort of gop donor class member. if i'm in the vaulted republican establishment. i'm psyched about carson's rise. in 2012, we got the chart of the primary leader that happened in that summer before the 2011 where everyone sort of gets a turn. those where is short cycles, four, six, eight weeks and eventually went into rommy. carson's rise at the expense of trump makes me think hopefully if i'm a donor class establishment republican, the same thing's ha...

Let me say. here's what i would say is my position if i'm say a big sort of gop donor class member. if i'm in the vaulted republican establishment. i'm psyched about carson's rise. in 2012, we got the chart of the primary leader that happened in that summer before the 2011 where everyone sort of gets a turn. those where is short cycles, four, six, eight weeks and eventually went into romney. carson's rise at the expense of trump makes me think hopefully if i'm a donor class establishment republican, the same thing's happening here just on a longer time scale. does that scan to you? >> somewhat...

>> here's why i think -- i would agree with that. let me say. here's what i would say is my position if i'm say a big sort of gop donor class member. if i'm in the vaulted republican establishment. i'm psyched about carson's rise. in 2012, we got the chart of the primary leader that happened in that summer before the 2011 where everyone sort of gets a turn. those where is short cycles, four, six, eight weeks and eventually went into romney. carson's rise at the expense of trump makes me think hopefully if i'm a donor class establishment republican, the same thing's happening here just on a lon...