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Those people you're spending all the time around trying to tell a story to to give you money, they're not the base. and those two groups don't have -- so the idea the base is going to get all like -- you're going to surge ahead in the polling because you're going to repeal the wagner act, i actually don't think rank-and-file voters in iowa care about that one way or the other. that is explicitly a donor class play, but at a certain point you need actual genuine enthusiasm. >> i would also say that not only did they not care about the wagner act, the republican base doesn't seem to care about p...

And those two groups don't have -- so the idea the base is going to get all like -- you're going to surge ahead in the polling because you're going to repeal the wagner act, i actually don't think rank-and-file voters in iowa care about that one way or the other. that is explicitly a donor class play but at a certain point you need actual general enthusiasm. >> i would also say that not only did they not care about the wagner act, the republican base doesn't seem to care about policy at all. they are supporting things in supporting trump that they have sworn off. i mean, the idea that this guy...