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Basic health care package as a right. they don't have to pay for it. but if they want to choose other options, they should be able tochlt why do we have to run on this notion that they can't have options? >> i got the.. i want one quick question i want to get in. >> sure. >> you're getting two cracks at the debate stage over this summer, two debate events. dnc is shifting the rules and requirements starting this fall. you'll have to get 2% in four polls and 130,000 donors to get in, in the fall. is that fair, yes or no? >> i don't think we should have a donor standard. i absolutely don't think...

Government is the notion of making smart investments in things that make a difference to our citizens and our economy. mike: you are a self thunder. you don't have a ton of people donating to your campaign. are these debates unfair to a guy like you? >> i think they are arbitrary, some of the criteria they have come up with. when there are big deals, what parties of that is used polling to narrow the field and that makes total sense. it makes sense to most people. have a candidate who are polling that are. what the dnc has come up with is a donor standard where we need 130,000 individual donor...