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New jersey that is absolutely needed. it is not inflated, it is not for the future, it is what's needed to get these cities and states back on their feed. >> >> i should say in the last vote 32 of the 100 senators, and 67 of 435 members of congress voted no, but what was interesting is that every one of those no votes came from representatives of states that have recently received or even now are getting federal disaster aid. is there some hypocrisy at work here? >> i would say there is, absolutely. new york, for example, is always known as a donor state. we sent more money than we receive bac...

In my state of new jersey, we pay an exorbitant amount of federal taxes. we're a donor state and we provide the necessary dollars so we spread it out according to the wealth. this is important. this is a critical concept in our capitalistic economy. the more you make, the more you pay in your share. tax reform is a real drag-out battle next year, because we deal with a subject laid on the side for all years while we go through these budget emergencies as you would say. we need to attack that, attack it head on. we need to, i believe, move into the era of taxing wealth more than income. i think...

For the federal government. >> so do we. there are some states where -- some states like -- i mean one of the things it pays for is like nursing homes for senior citizens which i assume is not an insignificant matter in your state and so other states actually help pay for florida as they contribute to the federal government. >> no, no, no, no, no. we are a donor state. we pay more than our fair share of taxes. the $1.9 billion is the expansion because of obama care. we already have the issue that our medicaid program which look we care about having a healthcare safety net for the vulnerable fl...

So other states help florida? >> no, we are donor state. we pay more than our fair share of taxes. the $1.9 billion is the expansion because of obamacare. we have an issue that our medicaid program -- look we care about having a healthcare safety net for the vulnerable floridians but this is an expansion that doesn't make any sense. look, every government program in the world, they say i'm going to cover everything. they run out of money. they are not honest. they stop paying providers well. then there is no one to take care of you. that is what this will do. florida businesses, there is no wa...

Looks like you guys owe us some money over the years. help us out. i'm not saying bailout but it's worth an argument. >> let's look at eric cantor who is in virginia. >> house majority leader. >> basically saying we're not going bailout any of these states. >> he got them today. >> we don't believe in any bailouts. . . cantor's state. it's basically looks like one of the greatest welfare states in the history of mankind. they have $180 billion more from the federal government, all those fancy offices in quantico. very rich to hear that from eric cantor and other folks. these states can use oth...