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Oval office that allows them to advance so many things they want on the domestic side. >> and from prime minister abe, you have macron in france seeming like an amateur when it comes to charm offensives. and donald trump will always throw you under the bus when your interests don't align. >> president trump has said he views everything as a transaction, and gives no particular deference to countries that have stood with the u.s. for decades. abe decided he was going to avoid conflict with trump by being his biggest champion internationally. and so far, he can point to one success in that, they...

Deliverables. what are some of the big concerns that we have been speaking with. it is just going to be a second photo-opt. they really need and they're hopeful that there will be something that comes out of this that's beneficial for the united states. a lot is up in the air right now, katy. >> we are hearing from the president when he talks about the korean peninsula, what we hear a lot from the president is a lot of inflated numbers that don't align with the facts. the washington post did a fact-check on how the president has been speaking about the korean peninsula and our treaty on our mu...

Indict a sitting president never gets tested. so we have to look at ways to try to get the question before a court, so that it can be determined where questions of law get determined in the united states of america. that is in court, and not in the upper offices of the department of justice. quick follow on that, does your urgency and sensitivity to the issue, betray a sense that you think the president should be indicted? >> i think if there's crimes that he has committed, he should be indicted. i do not at all subscribe to the olc theory that a president can't be indicted. i think that the o...

Debate later on? >> no, there's too much punting that goes on here in the capital. i have just finished up my fourth year here in congress. when you're talking about these really important issues that impact us today, and more importantly, my daughters are 12-year-old, their entire generation, punting it for them to deal with many years from now, we have a responsibility to take tough votes, tackle tough challenges today. there's too much punting. by the way, sometimes the punting happens on third down where we don't even engage in a conversation to try to work things out. i think the tough wo...

And reckless actions to the development of national security. jim mattis is somebody who we all in previous administrations have greatly admired and respected. and we're very glad he was at the helm of the u.s. military as secretary of defense. so his departure is something i think we all should be concerned about. >> i want to read you a statement that was put out by mitch mcconnell who as you know very rarely breaks with the president in public. and he said i was particularly distressed that he meaning mattis was resigning on key and other aspects of america's global leadership. john, that's...