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Believe that the investigation's the impediment. the impediment has to do with how russia currently, under the existing leadership, sees its interests. they see their interests as counter to u.s. interests. so this is not a question of whether we want to be friends with them. we have interests and we need to sit down with russia and talk and see where our interests align. where they don't align, we have to be firm, we have to say, you cannot have parts of ukraine that you illegally seized, for example. you can't violate international law. >> evelyn farkas, thanks for your time. the odyssey i...

>> i would agree with the first part. yes, it would be great to have a constructive, cooperative relationship with russia on any issue possible. but on the second part, i don't believe that the investigation's the impediment. the impediment has to do with how russia currently, under the existing leadership, sees its interests. they see their interests as counter to u.s. interests. so this is not a question of whether we want to be friends with them. we have interests and we need to sit down with russia and talk and see where our interests align. where they don't align, we have to be firm, we h...

Time we can talk to anyone in the world i'm all about it, when president obama wanted to talk to chavez, when president wants to talk to vladimir putin -- >> lisa: from an economic standpoint russia has been concerned in the european gas market and the united states with gas production of l.n.g., sort of hurting their position as well. how important is that from the u.s. standpoint in trying to combat or at least contain russia to some degree? >> melissa: president trump has done a fantastic job of opening the spigot on oil production, on natural gas, driving the price down and hurting the rus...

Nothing you can do for me. but the problem is is that when we say all the time that we want to denuclearize the korean peninsula, right, it's impossible. you can't get the jeanie -- >> and when we say hey, we want you to stop oil supplies to northwest because the only ones they get are from china. the chinese think man, if i do that, i can foment a revolution in north korea. i don't want that. so our interests don't align. in the sense the chinese don't want north korea to launch a missile, but basic the that's about all we have in common. >> gentlemen, thanks. the clock has snuck up on us. ap...

Me on that term. >> we will. we will that do. and we might do that, too. >> there you go. right behind china. now, is there an advantage, just like there is an advantage to trying to find diplomatic opportunities where our interests might intersect, is there an advantage to collaborating are the russians but as long as we are pragmatic knowing that her interest and ours don't align and they are the number two perpetrator out there in cyber space so it is worthwhile from an intelligence perspective. what does it mean? it means we'll have more contact and collaboration and more cooperation? no. ...