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Trump's running mate mike pence and the assertion that the election is rigged when we bring in chris frates. trump is yet, correct me if i'm wrong, to give any evidence as to what he means behind this claim of a truly rigged, hijacked election. >> that's exactly right. we've not seen him bring any kinds of evidence, this charge that somehow the election is rigged is true. as we just saw, he made that claim again today, tweeting that the election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media. but also at many polling places. and that's kind of important, too. this idea that it...

Yet, breaking with him because he is questioning america's democracy. what do you make of that? >> i think, poppy, we're starting to hear it bubbling up. i think people have started to talk about it in the last few days privately in washington, in the white house and congress. we saw a statement by paul ryan's spokesman, basically saying that the election would be fair. i think what's different here is -- >> but i would interject. trump tweeted bashing ryan. he's still endorsing trump. he didn't say, that's it, you can't question the legitimacy of the elections. >> paul ryan is trying to hang ...