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That is still living over the years took in $16 million in pay or loans from bernie madoff group. shouldn't the investors have access to that money? ill-gotten gains? >> kimberly: you think they should when you think how profits originated from. they should. >> andrea: ruth got $2 $2.5 billion. >> greg: she has to give the haircut back to dana. >> bob: let's talk about steve jobs that what happened before he died. his wife reported -- what is the story? >> andrea: steve jobs sister eulogized him this past weekend. beautiful eulogy. if you haven't read it, find the time to read it. it's so sad ...

33-year-old teacher is the same kind of sex predator as someone how are going to have someone on the child sex trade later in the program. >> bill: let's put that aside. the criminal justice system in place to protect the americans. most vulnerable americans are the elderly and kids. and for somebody who has throughout his career protected children the way you have in your reporting, all right? i'm surprised at you. >> police, bill, don't be surprised. don't be con descending to me. do you know if this woman was not a teacher the sex would have been legal. the age of consent is 16 years old in...

Can say that this woman, this 33-year-old teacher is the same kind of sex predator as someone how are going to have someone on the child sex trade later in the program. >> bill: let's put that aside. the criminal justice system in place to protect the americans. most vulnerable americans are the elderly and kids. and for somebody who has throughout his career protected children the way you have in your reporting, all right? i'm surprised at you. >> police, bill, don't be surprised. don't be con descending to me. do you know if this woman was not a teacher the sex would have been legal. the age...

Are eating. parents can pack lunches, parents can insist their kids eat right at school. they don't need the school taking photographs of the kids or of their -- or of their lunch trays. this is too much government intrusion into family life. >> all right. dr. extra vino, david bose, thank you both for spending time with us here on msnbc. >> thank you. it's been nearly four years since madeline mccann vanished from her hotel room while on vacation in portugal. how her parents are celebrating her 8th birthday today. plus, if you've been afraid to check out the balance on your 401k, yeah, we...

>> i don't want to get on that topic and don't want to talk about that, i want to talk about the notion that this is, you know, from an economic point of view, we can't continue this way no matter who you want to blame and no matter what you want to blame. if more and more people are depending on the government for their income, at some point this whole thing dries up. >> well, i completely agree with you, we dent want to have the situation that england had in the 60's or 70's where it's become a welfare state. i don't think we do. i think it's incouple went on us to education people. and i ge...