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On a bad day maybe he'll fall somewhere into the high 30s. on a good day maybe he'll reach into the mid-40s, but i think one way of looking at these numbers, whether it's the internal polls or all the public polls you have out there, these are numbers consistent with any president who has got the approval rating donald trump has had. >> yeah. i think that's an accurate reading. and a president whose approval rating, you know, oddly has never really breached 50%. it's never been at a level that you could confidently say this looks like somebody who is going to be re-elected. he didn't look like...

Apart on this. he wants $5 billion, democrats are not going to comprise on $3 billion or $4 billion or to a half billion dollars. they don't want a wall so the issue is walter no one? not how it will be built or how much money. it comes down to what democrats budge at all on the wall. even if it is only $1 billion it would be seen as a victory for the president of. don't budge on the line trump gives it will be a democrat victory. kristin: donald trump is winning the democrats, democrats are ready for the president. what should democrats be doing? should they be walking over to the white house...

To be angry, bad things can happen. -- >> obviously, it doesn't look good if you leave. you know, that might change, too, there's a limitation how long you can stay there if it doesn't look like the needle is moving. >> this might go for a long time. i'm not sure what he's doing, but this will going to affect federal workers and people aren't going to get paid and affect the rest of us. the longer it goes, it affects the irs, our taxes and start touching all of us and goes beyond. neil: this could go on quite a while, this might go on quite a while. >> he as an american i'm happy the president...

That's the wrong term to use. is that ever possible or no? >> it absolutely might be. they might actually decide maybe this isn't the right course. there is so much confusion about this piece of legislation. they stopped and they start from square one again. keep in mind, though, what is in this bill there is a pathway to citizenship. there is $25 billion hard money for the wall. this is a good vote for the republicans in the house of representatives to take. they want a vote for that the question is whether or not think are going it get that money. that's up to the senate. >> neil: thank you ...

Let me ask you about this circling the wagon because it just seems like on all fronts, i'm not going to compare it to a certain german leader once, but at one time hold the line on the eastern front at all costs. he's doing that. he doesn't give an inch now on anything. >> he doesn't give an inch, but i don't think it's actually out of weakness. i think it's out of strength. he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do. i'm not advocating these positions. he's doing exactly what he wants, not out of the need to kowtow to his base, but because his base is loving it, and he is -- >> okay, ...