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That yesterday the dnc announced that fox news has been banned from hosting any of the democratic party's 2020 primary debates. dnc chairman tom perez went on television to explain that fox news simply isn't a real news organization. >> at the highest levels of fox news they are not playing it straight. i do not have the confidence that we need to take such an important part of the nomination process, these debates and trust them to folks who at the top levels are consulting donald trump before they do anything. i couldn't do that. >> tucker: so that's a lie and everyone in the news business k...

That yesterday the dnc announced that fox news has been banned from hosting any of the democratic party's 2020 primary debates. dnc chairman tom perez went on television to explain that fox news simply isn't a real news organization. >> at the highest levels of fox news they are not playing it straight. i do not have the confidence that we need to take such an important part of the nomination process, these debates and trust them to folks who at the top levels are consulting donald trump before they do anything. i couldn't do that. >> tucker: so that's a lie and everyone in the news business k...

I think carter page is pretty much solved as an issue. but the warrant could, you know, in the end -- these warrants can show that, well, there is not as much there as we thought. that's something the republicans are missing in all of this. the warrant is isn't because you're absolutely sure someone is guilty. it's because you have enough probable cause to examine it to find out. and as we often said in my old business, you know, when you're looking for terrorists, you don't look for -- you don't consult mother theresa. you've got to look -- you've got to talk to people who have some credibili...

In the end -- these warrants can show that, well, there is not as much there as we thought. that's something the republicans are missing in all of this. the warrant is isn't because you're absolutely sure someone is guilty. it's because you have enough probable cause to examine it to find out. and as we often said in my old business, you know, when you're looking for terrorists, you don't look for -- you don't consult mother theresa. you've got to look -- you've got to talk to people who have some credibility in that world and, you know, whatever political views steele might have had, he seems...

You can sleep fine tonight, but fire and fury may not have been strong enough. what do you take away from someone who says don't worry about it. and what i said before that was an understatement. >> general mccaffrey called it babble. i wonder, john heilman, you were with donald trump when he was a candidate after one of these -- after a terror -- terrible tragedy. and you went to him of an international incident who do you turn to and he said my brain. >> he said me. we were with him at mar-a-lago. it was all happenstance and shooting for the circus on show time. it was the day after the brus...