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George bush could have been better at protecting america, but we didn't call them scandal scandals. >> there are no facts that prove that. >> eric: listen to me. homegrown terror, could i be considered a scandal? >> no. >> eric: why not? americans were dying. it's not happening here. how is that not scandalous? >> how was the genocide and syria a scandal? do we call the genocide in a scandal under george w. bush? >> so many mismanagement problems. bingo george bush did not react to sedan. don't deflect, is the same thing. how is it different?

Don't deflect, is it the same thing. how is it different? >> what about targeting conservatives and the irs? how about the fact that under george w. bush, the -- audited four times. is that a scandal? >> eric: it's a good debate, thank you very much. when we come back, a wild press conference, and a salacious but dubious report on donald trump and russia. we'll have all that in a minute. ' my bladder wake me up from my sweet dreams? thanks to tena, not tonight! only tena overnight underwear ...with its secure barrier system gives you.... ...triple protection from leaks, odor and moisture. tena...

Better at protecting america, but we didn't call them scandal scandals. >> there are no facts that prove that. >> eric: listen to me. homegrown terror, could i be considered a scandal? >> no. >> eric: why not? americans were dying. it's not happening here. how is that not scandalous? >> how was the genocide and syria a scandal? do we call the genocide in a scandal under george w. bush? >> so many mismanagement problems. bingo george bush did not react to sedan. don't deflect, is the same thing. how is it different?

Things. we've got legendary. what do we have for him? >> what do we have for him? >> don't deflect. >> cutie pie. >> let's workshop that a little more. >> ageing teenage sensation. >> andy gibb. >> managing editor of bloomberg politics mark halperin is with us as well. >> he owns that camera. so many memories through the years. it's like when -- mark halperin i was there. very interesting. we're talking about books we read off the air. i was very surprised. a huge bruce springsteen fan, but i start reading the book with some trepidation and i'm

Inequality has grown. >> don't deflect. don't deflect. >> capam him -- >> system to. >> stick to the issue. father in all these multiple venues, the house or the house or u.n. of philadelphia. he had a different approach for each audience. should he have spoken more? >> permanently? personally? perhaps, yes. okay. >> careful, father. he watches this show. >> perhaps, yes. >> but that doesn't mick million a lefty or righty. >> it doesn't. again, the ideology that he is preaching is not leftist, rightist, democrat, conservative. his ideaol is very simple it's love, and everything he talks bit --...