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Not dissect every word of this, because if you did -- >> don't take him literally. >> don't take him literally, we have had a lot of debate about this. but this was extemporaneous. don't dissect it too deeply. >> general mattis and rex tillerson all coming out with variations of a more moderate statement. >> they want to try to scale this down, and the problem -- i think that's a terrific strategy for them now, now that the president has kind of messed up. say well he didn't mean that literally. but especially in a international crisis, you need to go carefully. president kennedy used the word

And i think that's where we need to get is engage in some diplomacy to ratchet this thing back, to take nuclear war off the table. because that is catastrophic for everybody. and kim jong un does not want to die. he wants to live on in his lifestyle, and we should engage him in a discussion that lets him continue. >> stick around, everybody. more north korea in a moment. >> the russia white house investigation, learning that the home of paul manafort, the president's former campaign chairman was raid beside fbi agents. coming up, how one source says it's hitting the president's inner circle. t...

Obviously between the u.s. and south korea, there's been some concern about that. but it gives you an idea of the level of rhetoric we've been hearing from the president on the heels of these threats from north korea, anderson. >> and the lines he used yesterday, the fire and fury and more powerful than the world has ever seen, what do we eknow about that statement? at one point he looked down at a piece of paper be. i saw the reporting from "the new york times" that that was a one sheet on opioid use. it wasn't anything on north korea. >> well, look, for any other president we would have expe...

Not dissect every word of this, because if you did -- he's threatening a nuclear -- >> don't take him literally. >> don't take him literally, we have had a lot of debate about this. but i think this is an effort to say look, this was extemporaneous. don't dissect every word. don't take it too seriously. >> it certainly seems whether general mattis, rex tillerson, all of them sort of coming out today with variations of sort of a more moderate statement. >> right. they want to try to scale this down, and that's a terrific strategy for them now, now that the president has kind of messed up to say...

He used that word deliberately, a deliberate act so he wasn't leading us into war. that kind of nuance is required in the job, and this president has to rise to the occasion. frankly, his generals cannot allow him to go out unscripted on something like that. >> tim, today tweeting out this morning the nuclear arsenal is more powerful than ever. they're really not any changed. >> here is the thing that when i heard this statement yesterday, thank you, paul, for mentioning the book, i thought to myself, okay, is the president trying to deter the north koreans from doing something, or is he tryin...