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Don mcgahn said i won't fire -- he said i won't do what you're ordering me to do. it's bad for you. it's wrong to do. and the president relented. even if he didn't fire him. which he didn't. >> the if the fired james comey. did he get fired yes or no? you're not listening. >> you're making silly points. >> i'm trying to tell you that you're focussed on something that's not fair to the president. the president -- i'll accept maggie's words. shes an honest, ethical journalist. >> four sources. >> i accept that. i'm saying as a lawyer somebody that went to harvard law school, the president is not...

Mary wood. nixons secretary. and the hole in the tape. he did that in the context of the fbi missing texts. and did so erroneously. there's no intrigue with those. and by the way he had every reason to know there was no enteeg with those. that the fbi said it was a glitch. it wasn't just the two agents involved. it was one in every ten phones. now the fbi is saying they found the missing texts. so that was a bogus assertion. but could it be true that but for white house counsel don mcgahn, if the president of the united states had ordered the firing of the special counsel, he might have wound ...

Him personally? >> so far as i know. i don't point. but -- everything i know about him gives me confidence in him. >> bill crystal? >> i -- i was i was surprised b want to say he had distance, he just wasn't going to lean in. >> and he wasn't going to say, i want to say here to president trump who might be watching as he comes back from davos, don't fire robert mueller. or i be institute legislation that will stop that. >> it would be one that you wouldn't think that would be there to have trump's back on this? >> uh-huh. >> i want to switch to these steve winn allegations. carol, after readin...

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Writing this morning and others saying, don't fire the special counsel. if you do, there's going to be consequences. they are trying to put in place laws in congress that would require the president to go through a court and justify a request to fire the special counsel. that's where this story is heading. i find it, there is an attempt here not only to distract and sort of derailed the mueller investigation. >> dana: isn't that what the clinton administration did during impeachment in the lewinsky scandal, turn it into the right wing conspiracy and turn it into -- basically question the polit...