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Them. i believe there's no way they cannot get contraceptions if they need it. there's public health clinics, i believe, that distribute it. so it isn't so much an issue of not making it available, it's just an issue of forcing people to make it available. you can get contraceptives any place. if you honor religious liberty and don't force catholic institutions to provide contraceptives, that doesn't mean anybody's not going to get contraceptives, does it, lawrence? >> it doesn't mean anybody's not going to get them, but it does mean some people won't get them. there are plenty of ways to fall...

I do. and i think that's available to them. i believe there's no way they cannot get contraceptions if they need it. there's public health clinics, i believe, that distribute it. so it isn't so much an issue of not making it available, it's just an issue of forcing people to make it available. you can get contraceptives any place. if you honor religious liberty and don't force catholic institutions to provide contraceptives, that doesn't mean anybody's not going to get contraceptives, does it, lawrence? >> it doesn't mean anybody's not going to get them, but it does mean some people won't get ...