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>> look, there's my cousin. hey. >> is cecil a racist? >> i can't answer that one. i'm not sure. because of his tattoos? >> he has a huge swastika. >> that doesn't signify you're a racist. >> what does it signify? >> that i can't talk about. unfortunately i can't talk about. >> tell me why. >> it's kind of like our thing. as far as being a convict. >> while pike wouldn't say what kunkel's tattoos signify, he has an unlikely ally in his claims that kunkel is not a racist. >> real white boys, real racists. he's not one of them. real skin heads don't get hot. you know what i mean? it's like he's ...