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Need to be able to reach people through charisma and through your background for having been on the television screens for years and years and years, which was donald trump's way of doing it, then somebody like the rock has a chance. donald trump may have been an exception, i don't know. >> three years ago -- >> there are presidents rolling in their graves. >> and as they should. >> here's what i don't get though, kristen, is that actually i think when you try to do -- when the other party does something and you try to do what that party does light, it always fails. >> backfires. >> when you d...

With a ticket. as rich said somebody in this space is going to break out. is it cuban, the rock -- >> zuckerberg -- >> somebody's messing around here. >> if we are now living in an era where to run for president of the united states you need to be a celebrity and you need to have a television following and an instagram following and you need to be able to reach people through charisma and through your background for having been on their television screens for years and years and years, which was donald trump's way of doing it, then somebody like the rock has a chance. donald trump may have bee...