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Senator john mccain for being a hero again and again and now again. what is his impact in all of this? >> well, i think he certainly had an impact on public opinion without question. he has a platform. he relates to average americans that people that don't live, breathe politics like we do. the average american out there will take jimmy kimmel's word because it comes from an authentic place for him. i'm not saying that we should be taking healthcare policy advice from jimmy kimmel because he admitted he's not an expert on this and he's not. but he has a personal story that average americans ca...

Condone or appreciate the conduct toward bob mueller. i think i've described him as an american treasure, he is one of the good guys in a town full of people who don't live by the same kind of codes of service that bob mueller lives by. but i have heard that their political strategy is to go at mueller the way they went at comey in terms of motive and grandstanding and showboating. is that going to work in a legal sense? >> well, it is certainly allowed. it is lawful to voice your opinion of the other side, the prosecution, the doj, et cetera. so they can do that and in prior examples, certain...

This? >> no, no. i think there's going to be -- the plus is going to be you're going to lift a lot of people out of poverty. the minus is, yes, there will be job loss or less hiring. it's logical. it's common sense. that's what's going to happen for smaller businesses that can't afford a 50%-plus >> where so much. >> thank you very much. thank you for reporting on this. go to cnnmoney.com. happy new year. coming up next, this. >> addiction is the only cell where the key is on the inside. and i don't live -- i don't live in that cell anymore. >> part three of dr. sanjay gupta's remarkable ser...

>> yeah, 18 years ago when i was a heroin addict, it was actually during 9/11 and my apartment was full of syringes and it's interesting now living the life i do because it's like you make that one decision that changes your life. when i walk down the hall, i take a right and not a left. >> reporter: that was the old joe, this is the new joe. >> yeah. >> reporter: his first obsession, his first love really is still very much part of his life. >> is this a sanctuary for you now, a gym? >> yeah, this is where i've done my recovery, not just surgery but where i come to when i have a lot of emotio...

I still have not gotten over the shock of being here. and everything is so different. people are so different. they're not people. and i think i was still in shock at that time. i didn't really realize what was going on, and what it would be like to be in here. and it's horrible. it really is. i don't laugh as freely. i don't live, really, is basically what it is. i try very hard to keep my spirits up, but there's sometimes that you just can't. if it wasn't -- if it wasn't for my family, my granddaughter who i've got pictures of, i wouldn't make it. i don't know what would happen.