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Neutral ground the idea was for them to spend an entire day in the studio of a public television broadcaster talking without any reservations about their respective experiences and thoughts. their agenda would focus on sexualized violence and the misuse of power by priests while also addressing the future of the church so now. yeah these in many years they're always a bit rebellious. and you should. bear so who sits where. i really don't mind. so. is it so we're facing each other and it is right in our anger inside it's hard to put into words but i'd like to emphasise how grateful i am to you ...

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Neutral ground the idea was for them to spend an entire day in the studio of a public television broadcaster talking without any reservations about their respective experiences and thoughts. their agenda would focus on sexualized violence and the misuse of power by priests while also addressing the future of the church so now. well you seen many years there always a bit rebellious. and you should. bear so who sits where. i really don't mind. so. is it so we're facing each other and it is right in our anger inside it's hard to put into words but i'd like to emphasize how grateful i am to you th...

To try and have something that passes for thoughtful discourse is because it gets passed around. there are people out there in the middle who are willing in this case, for instance, to say maybe charles koch isn't theth person that i've heard he was. or maybe tucker carlson -- i'm going to get killed tonight. >> tucker: he is. he's definitely the man you thinkma he is. [laughter] >> i don't mind. to me, it's not a problem because i'm a public figure running a public charity. i can take a public platform and turn this kind of nonsense into what might be a thoughtful back-and-forth that might in...

To try and have something that passes for thoughtful discourses because it gets passed around. there are people out there in the middle who are willing in this case for instance to say maybe charles cope isn't the person that i've heard he was. maybe tucker carlson -- i'm going to get killed tonight. >> tucker: he is. he's definitely the menu think he he is. [laughter] >> i don't mind. to me, it's not a problem because i'm a public figure running a public charity. i can take a public platform and turn this kind of nonsense into what might be a thoughtful back thoughtful back-and-forth that mig...