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Someone who is a very fine civil servant, is not going to back his version of things and so i -- do i know it's a bluff? no. but i think it was a bluff. >> will this prove out to be an example of how business practice, "art of the deal" practices don't nosily work in government -- don't necessarily work in government. you're held accountable at every possible turn. it's one of the things that infuriates the president, one of the reasons he doesn't like the press, because we check you on everything. >> he doesn't want to be held accountable. this is really important for us to kind of note, and ...

Defend something world of-- >> we're talking about two different things, with the law on one side and-- >> and the left, right-- >> wait a minute, stephanie glock, with about time, about newscorp and murdoch suffered damage. >> and a financial post, not about hacking it's an ideological war to bring down newscorp as if there's no cull pablt. >> both can be true. there can be puculpability and-- >> runs the logo of fox, know the news corporation not news of the world, but fox, that would say they're a little too gleeful trying to attack-- >> most people don't nosily knows that news corporation ...

Glock, with about time, about newscorp and murdoch suffered damage. >> and a financial post, not about hacking it's an ideological war to bring down newscorp as if there's no cull pablt. >> both can be true. there can be puculpability and-- >> runs the logo of fox, know the news corporation not news of the world, but fox, that would say they're a little too gleeful trying to attack-- >> most people don't nosily knows that news corporation is the-- >> the purpose of the news is to inform. >> oh, jim, i'm so glad i could be here to get an instructional on you today, thanks. >> it seems that a lo...