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Tools and the republicans were able to -- >> the democratic digital operation that the obama coalition built, what about that? was it just outdated in four years that it advanced that far? >> yes, don. you still using aol? like, come on. let's go on. >> right, right. >> it's just things change. guess what, things change. mobile media changes. everything else. you know, the effective use of facebook was -- if it wasn't awful in terms of the fake news and things like that and the manipulation of it, of the paid advertising, it was brilliant in some ways. just the same way donald trump, and you k...

That's one of the things we got from her, like it or not, she's not apologizing, she's not going away. she's going to defend herself and not going to crawl over glass and cry and weep. that's what you're going to get. you're either going to like it or not like it. that's the hillary we saw today and what you're seeing in the twitter thing which is just a reflection of this ongoing feud between them which, you know, it's amusing to all of us but it really is an interesting debate about how we use social media and conduct elections. >> you mean there's something beyond dialup? i'm going to have ...

>> you mean there's something beyond dialup? i'm going to have to call my -- >> yes, don, i'm going to -- i'm coming to new york and i'm going to show you how to use the internets. i'm going to do it for you. i'm going to help you. i'm going to try you on snapchat. it will be great. we'll have a great time. >> it's a series of tubes as i understand from the former -- >> tubes. several tubes. maybe more than one. yeah. >> all right. from al gore. thank you, kara. i appreciate it. dana, i need you to stick around because i want to turn now to cnn's exclusive reporting tonight, new interest being...

Obama policy. on syria, he's following the obama policy. on afghanistan, he's following the obama policy. on immigration stuff, obama was deport a lot. there hasn't been that much changed. >> called him the deporter in chief. >> the travel ban is held up in courts. whatever the extreme vetting the obama people were doing is what he's doing. on trade policy, the things he talked about after the chinese visit are pretty standard issue, so you're right, there have been a lot of head fakes but i don't now whether -- this seems a little more serious. >> a lot of bluster but comes down to doing what...

You all for coming. >> hasn't he done that for the most part when it comes to a lot of these things? >> an interesting point you make, don, in many areas, many, many areas, there's been a lot of smoke and mirrors but at the end of the day he's following the obama policy. on isis, he's following the obama policy. on syria, he's following the obama policy. on afghanistan, he's following the obama policy. on immigration stuff, obama was deport a lot. there hasn't been that much changed. >> called him the deporter in chief. >> whatever the extreme vetting the balm. ma people were doing is what he'...