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Carpenter breaks his bat. fly ball into left. here's the throw from gomes. tied game. now the runner jay -- it gets away and the cardinals will take a lead. >> pitcher greg breslow didn't use his education very well over throwing third base with another run to come in. tack on another run and they take the game 4-2 evening the series. they go back to st. louis for game three on saturday. >> still think seven? >> i called in six. now it's more like it's seven. >> don't overreact. it's one game. it could be six. >> you're right. >> 22-year-old pitcher for the cards, good for st. louis. >> which ...

Happens, and don't overreact to it. it's hard to tell people. you have to train them. i told the people of new york, their resiliency was one of the reasons why we didn't get attacked again. because the terrorists realized -- they hit us really hard but didn't ruin the city. told the governor of massachusetts the same thing in boston. they came back the very next day. that's important. same thing in london. i was in london in '05 when they got hit. next day, everybody back at work. i believe that reduces that resiliency is a defense to terrorism and you have to teach people that. the americans...

Threat table at the fbi, to be in washington as a politician, and to screw americans into the ceiling about a threat that's comparable to pre--9/11, i don't buy it. we ought to be concerned but don't overreact. >> you hear president obama saying al qaeda is on its heels. i think that's the quote. do you believe that's still the case? is one interpretation, that peter -- one idea that peter forwarded, is that this is a sign of desperation on the part of al qaeda central, trying to tell al qaeda in the arabian peninsula to do something? is that your read on it? >> my read is that al qaeda is on ...

Threat table at the fbi, to be in washington as a politician, and to screw americans into the ceiling about a threat that's comparable to pre--9/11, i don't buy it. we ought to be concerned but don't overreact. >> you hear president obama saying al qaeda is on its heels. i think that's the quote. do you believe that's still the case? is one interpretation, that peter -- one idea that peter forwarded, is that this is a sign of desperation on the part of al qaeda central, trying to tell al qaeda in the arabian peninsula to do something? is that your read on it? >> my read is that al qaeda is on ...

And to screw americans into the ceiling about a threat that's comparable to pre--9/11, i don't buy it. we ought to be concerned but don't overreact. >> you hear president obama saying al qaeda is on its heels. i think that's the quote. do you believe that's still the case? is one interpretation, that peter -- one idea that peter forwarded, is that this is a sign of desperation on the part of al qaeda central, trying to tell al qaeda in the arabian peninsula to do something? is that your read on it? >> my read is that al qaeda is on a long decline, but americans perspective of time is short. we...