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To count at this point. we have seen stores and shops, mop-and-pop shops all over this area that have been ransacked, the front windows busted out. the liquor store completely wiped clean of anything. many of them with a neighborhood we were just in, the store fronts look okay, but on the backside, rioters and looters have gone in and stolen everything out the backside. in the alley, it's a frightening scene with the number of individuals in the alleyways. i can tell you they also -- if you were to point a camera, we saw some of them going in the alley. they saw us looking at the firefighters ...

Don't point out the 1% -- >> scottie, 15 seconds. >> real simple this question was about the president lying and sitting there telling people we have better race relations. all you have to do is flip on your nightly news and you know he lied -- >> you have to make everything about al sharpton and race relations in this country once again. >> they're not >> they're not better. >> you're right. they aren't better. coming up, every new year brings new laws. some make you scratch jour head in disbelief. if you live in new york, for example, you better stop taking pictures of yourself with tigers...

They are not. you have you have pointed out -- >> let me ask you really quick question. look, i don't think eric garner look, i don't think should have died. i feel bad about it. i don't see any evidence and i don't think you have any evidence, that there was a racial component to his death. because you don't have any evidence. so why do you so why do you keep saying that? why do you keep pretending it's -- >> wait a second, tucker. i think you're parsing the question here. what we're seeing across this country both in the eric garner case as well as the tamar rice case in cleveland, an africa...

They are not. they are not. you have you have pointed out -- >> let me ask you really quick question. look, i don't think eric garner look, i don't think should have died. i feel bad about it. i don't see any evidence and i don't think you have any evidence, that there was a racial component to his death. because you don't have any evidence. so why do you so why do you keep saying that? why do you keep pretending it's -- >> wait a second, tucker. i think you're parsing the question here. what we're seeing across this country both in the eric garner case as well as the tamar rice case in clevel...

Why do we allow mental illness like this to go untreated? why do we have so many guns on the streets? is it because of guns or mental illness of the criminal? >> institutionalized this guy then? >> i didn't say forcefully. we need a greater awareness of mental illness and get guns off the street. make them less available to people are mentally deranged. >> we cleared out all the mental hospitals in new york. walking around the street. >> and they get guns. >> sometimes they do yeah. of course they get guns. >> guns go to the handle. >> you can't blame the guns when a man pushes another man in ...