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Formation we need. they have done nothing but increase the regulatory values and values regarding similarration of our resources right here not united states. >> i was at a pump last week and a woman said would you just, i have to go inside quickly, be don't put in more than five gallons. okay? over and over and over you see this, people do not have the money, it is taking away their income and ability to spend money. >> this is what president obama told us would happen with the energy policy. when he ran he said my energy policies the necessarily mean higher energy costs. >> so if you want to...

Up gun control? >> i think it was the right thing to do. that's a very tough, divisive issue. he didn't mention abortion either. >> but abortion doesn't relate to tucson. >> you're right. the point of the whole speech and the point of what's happened and what we're trying to do in tribute to gabrielle giffords is bring the country together. i agree with the president's strategy. if his strategy is to bring this up later, fine. >> i'll ask you, pat, same thing before we go. >> if i were communications director i'd say don't put in the magazines and things like that. you'll get a big headline, i...

Don't legalize or even don't put in place such kind of debate, it is useful for us to do so. >> it means you can't -- you can't think about this if the u.s. doesn't stop -- >> i can think about it, but it is not useful if we start such debate here or start to take action in that. i don't agree -- >> because we have the -- we have the motherload of demand. >> i don't agree with legalization, but even the -- the main point of the arguments in favor of legalization is how to reduce the price of the black market in order to reduce the violence. now, if united states, the largest consumer, establis...

This crime, it is a crime, a crime even in the united states to export to mexico. so the traffickers of weapons are one very important part of this problem. >> i look at the drug war and it started out and the supply was coming from miami in the 1980s, so we cracked down very hard in miami and then it went to the caribbean. and we cracked down in panama. we went and arrested the president of panama. then it goes to colombia. then we go in with massive military effort there. and to a certain extent it's migrated to mexico. is the fundamental answer legalization of drugs? >> i think it's a very ...

Thing that rips up -- >> the shredder. >> stay away from the shredder. >> the committee is clearly protecting the integrity of whatever investigation they do. they do not want to be, anybody, including the republicans on that committee do not want to be accused later of having set up the investigation to fail by allowing documents to be destroyed or by not setting the proper scope for this investigation. clearly comey told them some things that concerned them enough that they were ready to say republicans and democrats alike after that meeting that this is going to be a bro bipartisan and vigo...