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He is but i think he knows if you were to try something it would result in the end of his country. i think that is probably effective against him. it may not be quite as effective on him transferring some of those weapons to other countries. we talked earlier about the iranian regime, they would love to receive to receive nuclear weapons, they are sitting on a lot of cash and they can pay for it. his calculations have changed since the president has taken office. >> harris: you heard the press secretary say we have a bigger nuclear button, maybe you speak their language. this week the presiden...

They are challenging this regim regime, if applying new sanctions would help them we should do it. if holding off and supporting the protesters efforts is something that will be effective -- i think it's very important that we give these protesters the full support of the u.s. government, however that would be effective. >> harris: how does that fit into our overall policy, the president taking a look at this deal and saying yes or no? >> it may not. if it's affecting the regime officials, that's probably a good thing. i've been saying the deal should be trashed from the beginning so that is k...

This deal is not up for renegotiation, and all of this is coming to a head before the president has a deadline mid-october where he has to either recertify the deal or not. he very much wants to not recertify the deal and has tasked his advisers for coming back to him with some options rather than just recertify or don't recertify, more stringent options to try to put more pressure on iran. he'll be making a number of these decisions in the coming weeks and we'll see where it goes. >> and bill neely, secretary tillerson is really walking a very careful tightrope here, because he and his state ...