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This b down he wasn't arrested. and all those people that were looting we've been showing, none of them were arrested. should they be arrested now? >> if you were looting you should be arrested. >> the stepfather shouldn't be arrested for inciting a riot? >> he said on camera that he shouldn't have made those comments. even the president of the united states denounced his comments. those should not have been made. but the fact of the matter it does not take away what happened in that moment when officer wilson confronted -- >> there's a good lesson here. don't rob a store, don't intimidate a c...

>> i want -- >> go ahead. >> -- because we watch all these protests. we've sent our cameras out. we've asked the protesters, did they know about the case, did they read the evidence that was presented to the grand jury. they didn't. i'll do it now. in the case of michael brown, there's a lesson to be learned. don't rob a store, don't intimidate a clerk, don't fight a cop for his gun, don't charge at him like a football player with his head down. let's go to the eyewitnesses in the case, most of which happen to be black. from the grand jury testimony, i could say for sure that brown never put h...

Has to change. >> people need to know that black lives and brown lives matter as much as white lives. >> all lives must be valued. all lives. >> african-american, most particularly african-american men, are still more likely to be stopped and searched by police, charged with crimes and sentenced to longer prison terms. >> there are still problems. and communities of color aren't just making these problems up. >> here with reaction milwaukee county sheriff david clarke is with us. mr. clarke, thank you for being here. appreciate it. i have different takes on both of these. and i look at, for ex...

Garner's there's cigarette man this is about a city obsessed with getting every penny they can out of the high tax cigarettes they have in new york which is six bucks a pack. but that's a different case. he should not have died this man. he shouldn't have been confronted. he shouldn't have been known by the police. >> that's right. >> that to me is more fundamental -- and a lot of your arguments i would agree with, but there's no race examples here. >> in this case -- >> i want -- >> go ahead. >> -- because we watch all these protests. we've sent our cameras out. we've asked the protesters, di...

Firemen running up to windows. this young man terrance he is out there with his friends and he's trying to help. >> i commend people like terrance. what needs to be shown is positive african americans and people doing the right thing. that's not going to change. that is pity in my opinion. if you want to change go to law school become a police officer. become a part of congress. i don't want to hear the excuse they are not going to give us the laws. i became a lawyer, self made. >> i say there's a lesson to be learned in ferguson, don't rob a store, don't intimidate a clerk, don't fight a cop ...