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He's hired some new political operatives. does this tell you anything? >> well, i think he's probably wanting to be more serious about the tactics of campaigning. he's obviously very good as a messenger. very good at trying to convey, control the media message. if you're going to have a successful campaign, you've got to be more than just that. so looking to a team that can put together an operation is something that may signal he's getting more serious as a candidate. >> do you think as republicans and he gets more serious and becomes the guy, do you think more republicans would fall in line ...

7 or 8 months ago. he couldn't have been nicer. he wanted to know if i'd contribute to his doctor situation which is very good where he helps children with the eyes. i actually think he's a far better doctor than he is a senator. you know, it's fine. they're trying to do a little bit of a number. the last two people that did it were lindsay graham. he came at me really hard and he's right now at zero. and rick perry was 4% and he came at me really hard and he went down to 2. and rand's campaign is failing. >> you know, don, the political knives are out and it's only august. >> and rand paul is...

You think he's a positive force in the gop field? >> i think he's tapping into people's anxieties in the town hall. i think people have had it with frustrations in their lives connected with the government, connected with the loss of jobs. but i don't think people want to staid on the negative side. i think they want to know what the solutions are. >> so, you know, on that topic, don, i asked them about the fact that rand paul, another conte contender, has another web out today really hitting donald trump hard on more of his more liberal positions in the past. and he said you know what, he's w...

Carter's health crisis. joining me now, cnn's dana bash and mark preston. good evening to you both. the numbers are out now. is donald trump unstoppable? walk me through what we're seeing here? >> well, don, certainly he's doing well after that debate and the controversy that erupted soon after with his remarks about megan kelly. let's look at these numbers from the crucial state of iowa. these new orc poll numbers. look at donald trump on top at 22% and then carson at 14%, ted cruz at 8, mike huckabee at 7. now, don, what is fuelling the support for donald trump in iowa is that voters there t...

>> don, look, in 2007 dp-- >> i'm going to stop you right there. juliany didn't have billions of dollars squeezing the other candidates out like boa constrictors. >> there's a definite proportional relationship to the amount of media coverage that donald trump receives based on the foundation of his celebrity. >> but whose fault is that is this. >> listen, you guys have chosen to allow donald trump to drive the story. that's fine. that's your prerogative. but, at some point, you have to ask him to start answering real questions. >> robert, before you go, i have to say this to rick. if jeb bush...