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Erin Burnett OutFront

also breaking trump's attorneys told to control their client after he went on a tirade during his new york fraud trial today. trump's business empire tonight hanging in the balance. we are waiting for word from the judge.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

inflated his worth by billions and now he's deciding whether trump should by $370 million which is what the attorney general has been seeking. paula, i mean as all this went down and trump afterwards planned to go in front of those flags and make a statement. but in the courtroom the judge had said trump couldn't speak if he wasn't going to respect the court's parameters and he spoke anyway. was it effective? >> reporter: no, erin, it's very unlikely to be legally effective to attack the judge who is currently contemplating the possibility of hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties in addition to other charges. but as you note, this is as much about the personal and the political as it is about the legal. and that's part of why we heard from trump four times today. he spoke to reporters on his way in. he addressed the court. he spoke to reporters on his way out and then had a press conference. that's notable because it's a real contrast what we saw

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Erin Burnett OutFront

tuesday when trump showed up to federal court. he didn't see him at all. he pulled into a garage, no reporters to talk to. he certainly didn't participate in the proceedings. but today he appeared to seize on every opportunity to amplify his message he's the target of political persecution and managed to get a lot of attention and traction, and it's likely we will see him adopt this play book going forward. his next opportunity to do something like this will be next weekch in the next phase of the e. jean carroll defamation case, now i covered the first defamation trial. trump did not participate in that at all, which is why it was notable today during his press conference he intends to show up next week just a few blocks where i'm standing for the next phase of that case. it appears he is once again going to try to participate in the proceedings or seize on the media attention to amplify his political message, and that pay may work for him politically, but legally we could see soon see the consequences as the judge overseeing the civil case as he expects to issue his decision by the end of the

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Erin Burnett OutFront

gave him one more opportunity and did you agree with this and instead of answering he started talking. i think what was surprising the judge let him speak for several minutes before shutting him down. the judge has not shied away from cutting trump off before, so it was a little surprising he let him speak for several minutes. >> i have to say, ron, they negotiate your lawyer, and then your lawyers have no power, no influence, and it means nothing and he's going to stand up and do whatever you want, what are the implications especially when the judge has already ruled the guilt. it's a matter of the penalties. >> it's not in trump's own self-interest in terms of if he cares about how this is going to turn out in the courts. and it's a clear signal to the judge he's not being controlled by his lawyers. >> he says in surprise control your client. >> and it's in your client's self-interest to control your client. that's in a bad situation to be

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Erin Burnett OutFront

month. >> all right, paula, thank you very much. outside that courtroom, and of course she'll be covering that next trial as well as will eric larson, bloomberg newsroom reporter covering trump's trials. i know you were in the courtroom today. jamie gangel is with us and eric goodman. you were there, trump made a statement and told he couldn't talk, get up and does anyway and admaungsed and told to sit down. >> i think everyone was pretty surprised because there'd been this e-mail exchange between the judge and his lawyers where they were clearly negotiating for trump to give this statement and the judge flat out refused because he wouldn't agree to the guardrails what he could say, just typical rules what he could say during a closing argument like this and he refused to agree to it. it was pretty surprising when the judge at the last moment

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CNN News Central

his lawyers have from this entire case, as a politically motivated and manufactured allegation. now trump says when you say don't go outside of these things, we have a situation where i am an innocent man. they are he's referring to the restrictions that the judge tried to put on any participation he may have. he said quote, i've been persecuted by someone running for office, referring to the district attorney who did promise to investigate trump when she ran for office. he's insisting that i have to go outside these bounds. here he's making -- restrictions the judge wanted to put on him. i want to bring in our colleague kara scannell who is right next to me. carrie was in the court earlier for oral arguments. kara, you called it, you knew that trump couldn't get through the day without participating in some way. is a surprising? >> nothing in this trial has been surprising. -- it changes and it doesn't happen. it doesn't surprise me at all that the judge allowed trump to

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Laura Coates Live

interestingly enough, seem to agree with what you just said about trump and how he is for himself and not you. nikki haley is one. desantis is another. nikki haley is still playing cleanup tonight. i'm stunned he's still trying to clean this up, the civil war comments. why? >> because she wants the votes of white nationalists. >> she's not a stupid person. it was slavery, and it was in her state that it began. why does she say that? in february of 2016, jake tapper interviewed donald trump. donald trump had just been endorsed by david duke, the former klan leader. and jake tapper said do you disavow david duke and his ku klux klan background? mr. trump couldn't do it. jake asked him three times. i want to be careful about the fallacy of composition. all the racists are for trump. but not all the trump reporters are racists.

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Deadline White House

so really quite a remarkable document. so that's sort of the way i've been thinking about it in the short amount of time i've had to sort of process what this means in relation to the other case. >> you know, i think it makes clear that there were real human victims. i mean, the victims don't stay silent and we've tried on this show to give some of the victims a chance to have their voices heard. i think the stories told, one satisfied the slightly obvious point that trump couldn't stay in power just by turning over his defeat in georgia. so she acknowledges and tells the story of the entire plot to cling to power, even though he had lost the 2020 presidential election, which is very satisfying to sort of the impulse to see logic prevail.

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Prosecuting Donald Trump

in military uniforms, but often today, trump couldn't get the military to play, so we had a civilian army. but there are always people behind the scenes who have prepared it and then are in place if it's successful to kind of be the bureaucracy of repression. >> and that mary, the intersection with the candidates status is relevant because although there has been zero evidence that i've seen publicly that jack smith of the justice department has targeted donald trump because he was running again. having said that, it is a concern that you want to make sure that it doesn't happen. you wouldn't want a candidate targeted because he went out of his way the charge shows the. he got all this news and when you look at [inaudible]

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Morning Joe

trump couldn't be controlled or constrained in any other way. >> so donald trump's former attorney general bill barr made the tv rounds again over the weekend, largely defending the department of justice. saying the charges against trump are not a result of a weaponized doj. >> i don't like, you know, all these overkill attacks, that this was somehow reprehensible to bring it. what was reprehensible was the conduct after the election. it's perfectly to be expected that the department of justice would approach it the way it would approach something like this, which is under the laws against defrauding the united states and obstructing proceedings. i think it's a legitimate case. i don't understand the attacks on the department, saying it's abusive or it is weaponization for bringing this case. when someone says, you know, this is unfair, this is, you know, there's some other motive, the first question is, okay, was

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