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Well, about whether chief justice roberts meant to send a signal that others in washington will follow by siding with the liberals on the court, some analysts see a jurist concerned chiefly with the integrity of the high court at a time when government is so polarized. >> he wasn't making a political decision, but he was putting the interest of the court as an institution above his own ideological agenda, and that's exactly what he said he would do. >> it was a reminder to all us students that elections have consequences because presidents appoint supreme court justices who can have pretre imp...

Is this what republicans want to spend their time on? governor jindal said, yes, they won't do the exchanges or medicaid expansion. is this what house and senate republicans want to fight about? >> perhaps they do. i'm not sure the presidential campaigns want to dwell on health care, either one. it's fascinating because the legal victory went to president obama but in some sense a political victory went to the republicans. romney now has a new argument he can deploy which is that president obama raised taxes, a national health care tax, something we've already heard republicans say in the wake...

The same medicaid rules that we do. so i think this stuff about not accepting medicaid and not accepting exchanges is crazy. if you don't like the law, i understand. i don't like the law all that much. but the fact of the matter is it is the law, it will work, ill's necessary, and governor romney knows it because he did it in massachusetts. >> two things real quickly. on medicaid expansion, this is a great philosophical difference between republicans and democrats and mitt romney and president obama. you heard howard say a growing medicaid grows your state's economy. look, federal dollars aren...

Is through something getting in motion that's very hard to stop. it's difficult for me to imagine, for example, republican governors telling their taxpayers, taxpayers of their state, that, oh, there's all this federal money for medicaid expansion. it's your tax dollars. they're going to other states. they're not coming to our state. you get none of that back. it's not going to be a popular position. so i think a lot of -- you're going to hear a lot of tough talk now. i think you'll see less tough action when the rubber actually starts hitting the road in implementation of law. >> chuck, when ...

Going to fully implement the law even though the supreme court has spoken. why not? >> absolutely. look, this election, this coming election gives american voers a chance. we've got two very dirpt infrastructure candidates. president obama has doubled down on this creation of a brand-new entitlement program over $500 billion in medicare cuts, $500 billion in tax increases, $1.7 trillion in new spending we can't afford. we can't afford the programs that we have. we wants to create a new program. there's never been one day a majority of the american people wanted this. he forced this through on ...