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>> he suggested let the door open to pardoning mike flynn before this gets going. i think it was striking how different his message on mueller was from what we are hearing for the hill. >> definitely. why do you thinks that? >> i think because he is trying to butter up mueller, honestly. it undercuts that hill message that has been growing and now where the republicans are going to be saying well, this needs to go. you can say well, the president himself says i'm being treated fairly. there was a mixed message that didn't help. >> speaking of buttering up, i want to show everybody what he said...

Ike, and ike, jared kushner and paul manafort describing the news, eerily weird given what they had discussed at trump tower just five days earlier. do you find that strange? >> i think that's an interesting comment and i think that's one that mueller should ask about. i want to say this to max, who i have a lot of respect for. very learning man, my daughter worked for foreign policy magazine, i know he's a regular contributor, at the same time, max, we would both agree that it's been a year and a half, and there hasn't been anything that mueller or the senate or house committees have produced...

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Chris dodd and congressman ba barney frank in 2010 as a result of the financial crisis. it was a bunch of laws that all got. together in one. it was basically the biggest overhaul of regulation since the great depression. it sort of affects nanything to do with money and banking. it was designed to avoid the too big to fail situation. critics say don't throw the baby out with the bath water. it doesn't appeal it, it directs the treasury to examine it, go to all the agencies and say what can we do to make this better, which a lot of people think means make it more business friendly. >> the admi...

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