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Way. bob standich has been driving these vehicles for more than six years. >> driving a rock crawler is an adrenaline rush. i know a lot of guys get it from speed but believe it or not, crawling around sitting 50 feet up on the side of a hill, and you can feel the tires inching off of a rock underneath you, it's a pretty good rush. >> on july 7th, 2005, in portland, indiana, bob competes in a rock crawler tournament. fans pack in to cheer on these vehicles that look like something straight out of "mad max." >> some people watch for the races. some people watch for the wrecks. you got people th...

That? >> the only thing that will make hillary clinton lose this race is if the voter believes there's something wrong with hillary, her campaign, or her character, that so so egregious, it ultimately will cause her to fail. i know ben's laughing. he's saying hillary has all that stuff. but voters may not believe that. i remember two years ago, s.e. cupp and i sat down and interviewed sanders. and he said then, i'm not here to challenge hillary, i'm here to push my agenda. when you hold on to a climb thik that, you win a lot of credibility but you don't win elections. >> always good to have yo...

Winner. so then he goes into new hampshire. now, it has been a long time in new hampshire since someone won new hampshire who did not campaign there more than someone who came in second. he has not been someone who's campaigned a lot in new hampshire. and if donald trump were to win new hampshire, he would break the whole new hampshire compact with voter, which is you really have to go up there and meet people. i think that new hampshire is going to do what it's always done in the past, which is reward someone who has spent a lot of time talking to voters. that wouldn't be donald trump. so the...

Jeb bush and in nevada, it's ben carson behind him for 30 delegates. you can see what is happening here. yes, donald trump has big numbers out here. but -- but bear in mind, all of these elections can affect the next one along the way. and the question becomes in this debate, in this debate, can anyone push that momentum down on him and establish himself or herself as a strong second so that they are still in the game as they move further down the way? erin? >> because it sounds like what you are saying, cruz is a second, rubio is a second, carson is a second. you can see how it gets complicat...

Than they do about this asymmetric threat to our way of life. than they do about this asemitic >> let me ask you about the state of the race. trump remains on top. i know he's been a thorn in the side of a lot of the other candidates, but there's been talk that maybe there will be a brokered convention or people won't support the winner of the nominating process. i don't see you in that camp. if you don't win, you'll support the winner. how do you, but more importantly, how do you see a path to victory for yourself seven weeks out of iowa? >> so, i think that first of all, i don't think donald...