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>> yeah, this was 1995 in pakistan. this was what later became the regular taliban, if you will, the afghan taliban. and later on, there was a split between the larger group into ttp or the pakistani taliban. you know, i got swept up into it in 1995. i was young, adventurous, i was looking for, you know, the romanticized ideals of the muslim fighters of the old days. and i think this is the same thing that catches a the lot of individuals. they wear the costume of religion, but it's the furthest thing from it. >> costume, that's an interesting word you chose. i'm going to loop back to, but we'...

>> well, first of all look up this group ca. a dooeviant group where the prophet condemned them, referred to them as dogs of hellfire, the worst of creatures. and there was specifically, you know, defined by the use of the koran, that the koran, they would cite it, but it would not pass their throats or they would cite the koran and take from it that which it did not say or mean. so this is something known in the islamic tradition. and this is exactly what we're seeing today. these are groups. >> thank you, both, for joining me. coming up next, tyler perry talks to cnn about the rape allegat...

Attacks on children in pakistan and in afghanistan for that matter. you know, there you have objections to the kind of education that people are getting. in this case, i believe the school was connected to the government, you know, maybe you can clarify that for me, but i believe there's a, you know, this was a school where the graduates would take part in military or government activity, then so that was part of the justification for targeting it. >> i got it. and back toer your point about this romance -- how are these militants using the koran to justify these brutal, heinous attacks and ki...

Pakistani taliban. can you tell me how powerful this group is? >> well, the group, they don't really, they don't really have a lot of support within pakistan. they've been a fringe element that sort of rallied in the aftermath of september 11th when pakistan began aligning more with the u.s. and trying to combat terrorism in the aftermath of september 11th. and they have carried out since then horrific attacks across the country. predominantly targeting officials and soldiers. thousands of soldiers killed in this conflict. but today, they took it to a whole new level by targeting the children ...