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>> if i don't have child labor, i will go out of business, and this is just not true. >> and i am so glad that dorian said that, and we are on mhp and the one-year anniversary, and real talk, so nobody is against the minimum wage anymore. they like to sound principled so that the conservatives position themselves that way. and we have raised the minimum wage 13 times since 1938. and nobody says that you should stand up to work -- >> well, except for janitors. >> and weakening the child labor law. and there is nothing to be done, but that at the margins, yes, people say, well, 15 versus 16 or $...

Growing the economy and create new jobs and provide those opportunities here at home. he said that engaging the people in that process is something he wants to do in the second term, and with the wind at his back, we are all still do many great things. >> joining us is dr. james martin, and dorian wells and ma mark and kathleen. >> well, i am very pleased that the show has talked about poverty for a year now as an issue. >> yes. it is. >> it is welcomed news and providing context before the wonky social science, it was the